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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #41
Offline   Pandaba
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Argoyle wrote:
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Pandaba wrote:

How does the company know who's on the other side of the computer? What's stopping a male player from marking 'female' on their registration form just so they can play as a female?




They would use webcam verification.


Photoshop, anyone?

Posted on: 2010/2/10 13:51
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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #42
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@panaba: webcam, not webphoto.

(quite literally a camera and filming you)

photoshopping film is much more difficult than photoshopping pictures.

Posted on: 2010/2/10 13:53
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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #43
Offline   Argoyle
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Luz_Melian wrote:

And would that mean that all people who want to play certain games would have to purchase a webcam and connect online with it...? That's also an invasion on privacy.




This is China we are talking about - no such thing as privacy.

Posted on: 2010/2/10 14:08
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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #44
Offline   KTC
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@arggie: there's no such thing as privacy anywhere period.

You only have the illusion of privacy.

Posted on: 2010/2/10 20:17
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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #45
Offline   CantaExigo
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@Argoyle

I disagree. The mainstream view of China is that they are morally bankrupt, don't respect natural rights, etc. when in reality, we can't say that at all.

You can say that privacy in China isn't respected the same way it is here, or that civil rights in China aren't respected the same way they are here.

Setting the bar globally to be equal to what it is by our cultural standards is one of the hurdles that a lot of people have difficulty jumping through when trying to understand the socio-political ongoings of other nations.

It's easy to note differences between morality. It's harder to note that the values upon which we build our morals are inherently different.

Posted on: 2010/2/10 23:35


Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #46
Offline   KTC
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@canta: ignoring morality (since why is this entering the equation? anything for the country's 'good' automatically overrides a silly thing called morality. The ends justify the means.), china definitely has some privacy issues from the getgo as do any nation.

US got their patriot act, FBI, CIA, other forces we don't know about. China got their own privacy 'pirates'. And so on.

If they really wanted to dig into your privacy/life, it wouldn't be too hard. Luckily, most of us are deemed harmless hence 'privacy'.

But, this isn't about china government. This is about a MMO company which I believe doesn't have the same resources as the government.

Posted on: 2010/2/11 14:40
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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #47
Offline   Wolfie
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Quote:

KTC wrote:
anything for the country's 'good' automatically overrides a silly thing called morality. The ends justify the means.

No they don't. Any country whose leaders ignore such things as morality is worse than anarchy.
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In 2008, Mugabe agreed to hold an election, but it became clear that he would accept the result only if he won. His supporters launched attacks on the opposition, killing 163 and torturing or beating 5000.

http://www.parade.com/dictators/2009/ ... s-10-worst-dictators.html

Extreme example is extreme, but makes my point. (kind of)


Anyway, maybe in china (or in Aurora Tech.) honesty & integrity are considered more important than privacy & they believe that misrepresenting your gender is dishonest if you're a guy.

Posted on: 2010/2/12 16:17
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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #48
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@wolfie: There's nothing moral about torture techniques, shipping people off to Guantanamo and keeping them there indefinitely, being a general big brother always looking over your shoulder and yet that's what the US (and most countries) is like.

Moral when it suits it but always ready to fling that away for amoral tactics if those work better.

Posted on: 2010/2/12 16:28
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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #49
Offline   Argoyle
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Quote:

Wolfie wrote:
Quote:

KTC wrote:
anything for the country's 'good' automatically overrides a silly thing called morality. The ends justify the means.


No they don't. Any country whose leaders ignore such things as morality is worse than anarchy.



I believe KTC was playing devil's advocate there, just to show the morally corrupt's point of view.

Posted on: 2010/2/12 16:31
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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #50
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Quote:

Argoyle wrote:
Quote:

Wolfie wrote:
Quote:

KTC wrote:
anything for the country's 'good' automatically overrides a silly thing called morality. The ends justify the means.


No they don't. Any country whose leaders ignore such things as morality is worse than anarchy.



I believe KTC was playing devil's advocate there, just to show the morally corrupt's point of view.


Oh, that makes sense. never even thought about that. Yet, better to not take the devil's advocate view lightly since that's the whole point of it. =P


KTC: to avoid going in circles too much...
Wow, that's a lazy way of handling affairs. There's always a way to get what you want done done without ticking off the world.

(& I agree, The George Washington era view of stay out of our playground & we'll keep out of yours was so much better. But, who else does the big brother thing? I mean, the only one I'm aware of is Germany (& US too) trying to exploit Kosovo's natural resources. . .)

Posted on: 2010/2/12 16:48
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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #51
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@wolfie:

"Wow, that's a lazy way of handling affairs. There's always a way to get what you want done done without pissing off the world."
^ that's why CIA/FBI and probably other sectors exist lol! The whole point is to keep it hush hush so it won't anger the population if they learn what their country is really doing/allowing. (scroll down to Disbanding and end of WW2 and what Douglas MacArthur did. why is this tidbit never in US history books?)

as for big brother: that's what the patriot act is pretty much allowing. XD (good thing most of us are really uninteresting. )

Posted on: 2010/2/12 16:54
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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #52
Offline   Wolfie
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still lazy. =P
That info is just a means to ends that can be reached in other ways. It'd be tough but can be done. Esp. if full disclosure becomes involved with all parties.


I thought the patriot act is just internal.

Posted on: 2010/2/12 17:21
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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #53
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@wolfie:

lazy: and expensive lol.

patriot act is big brother for US. Though course, supporters of the act put a 'its for your own good to keep the terrorists out' spin on it.

Posted on: 2010/2/12 17:26
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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #54
Offline   Wolfie
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yes, but moral.
Eradicating all the amoral nations would make it cheaper. oh wait... =P

We're our own big brother? sweet! jp
dang warmongers.

Posted on: 2010/2/12 18:06
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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #55
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Doesn't anyone hold the notion that morality is relative o.O? As one who does, I agree with KTC on the notion that every country has their definitions of what is or is not acceptable, and goes according to that.

Posted on: 2010/2/13 1:21


Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #56
Offline   Wolfie
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Canta:
Exactly

Quote:
Wolfie wrote:

Anyway, maybe in china (or in Aurora Tech.) honesty & integrity are considered more important than privacy & they believe that misrepresenting your gender is dishonest if you're a guy.

Posted on: 2010/2/14 0:39
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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #57
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Quote:
Wolfie wrote:

Anyway, maybe in china (or in Aurora Tech.) honesty & integrity are considered more important than privacy & they believe that misrepresenting your gender is dishonest if you're a guy.


Ah! Also agreed It seems wrong to just label certain actions or regulations as immoral just because their values are different. We should understand what values are more or less important to them before passing that judgement.

Posted on: 2010/2/14 1:50


Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #58
Offline   KTC
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@canta: "We should understand what values are more or less important to them before passing that judgement."

^ or attempt to anyway to the best of our abilities since we're already indoctrinated to a certain way which will color everything. Nothing can be looked at in a completely objective way.

Posted on: 2010/2/14 2:13
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Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #59
Offline   Wolfie
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Speaking of indoctorination, anyone remember watching videos like this in elementary school? =P

Posted on: 2010/2/16 14:59


Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters #60
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Conjunction Junction, what's your function!? But to answer your question, yes I remember those videos.

Posted on: 2010/2/16 15:12
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