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Re: Three the Hard Way #1501
Offline   dreams2explore
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Good job! Glad you made it on your own *thumbs up*

Posted on: 2010/6/28 9:43
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Re: Three the Hard Way #1502
Offline   catgoddess
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I'm completely stuck in the Berkeley ice cave. I'm going around in the same circle over and over again, and I've only managed to turn two of the blue lamps to red (via the pointer puzzle and the boulder). I've got the rope but can't find anywhere to use it. Any tips?

Posted on: 2010/6/28 21:51


Re: Three the Hard Way #1503
Offline   latyss
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Try using it at the tuft of grass in the main room (the one with the lamps).

Posted on: 2010/6/28 22:01
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Re: Three the Hard Way #1504
Offline   IvanaDeRossi
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MP : 506 / 11387
Er trying to replay TTHW again I was wondering when you can go to Cumberland and take that dragon quest?

Posted on: 2010/7/31 9:12


Re: Three the Hard Way #1505
Offline   UntoldReveries
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I think you can head down to Cumberland after you're denied access to Burlington i.e after completing the first 3 bounty hunter jobs from Lauren. A guy in Branchville who wasn't there earlier (the one that literally blocks your way..lol) hints about it. Once there, Vance's mom will do the needful

Posted on: 2010/7/31 19:41
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Re: Three the Hard Way #1506
Offline   IvanaDeRossi
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Ah thanks

Ok. This really sucks. I'm doing the escorting job and I'm at this diamond tile thingy where you put the tile on the correct places and it will transport you to the other side... whenever I try to restart and press the floor to put the tile, there's no message! Is this some kind of a bug??

Posted on: 2010/8/1 14:00


Re: Three the Hard Way #1507
Offline   dessertrose
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That's weird... dunno if it's a glitch or not coz it worked fine for me Try reloading and see if it happens again.

Here is the solution if you need it:
Place the first Diamond Tile on the only space you can. Then place another tile on the southern space. Finally, place another tile on the tile in the southwest corner of the area it takes you. Then head east.

Posted on: 2010/8/1 20:01
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Re: Three the Hard Way #1508
Offline   wrathofnature
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MP : 1 / 44
Seeing this thread makes me want to replay this game for the fourth time. It's amazing that one person made a game this large with so much optional content and secrets.

Pretty much the biggest reveal in the game is very hidden and very easy to miss [spoiler] Finding Teachy the Discordian is one pain in the ass unless you have the levitate book and kanna in your party (in which case you can get to him in seconds) but totally worth it. And he's the dragon that kidnapped that bad singer (from an optional sidequest) which was funny.

Beating the other KBs make you think that Marion isn't the nicest person but Teachy tells you just how sick and twisted she is. Having kids with Ramseur for the purpose of having one kill the other and become king to maintain her own twisted sense of balance? Personally I consider her the most evil character in the story. The KBs are physical representations of evil so they're evil by nature and Duke Greene was warped into what he became but Marion chooses to be twisted.


Also pretty cool was Ramseur's cutscene. Him making the Kibou sword Carolus used to kill Olanta. Love the quote, 'I brought you here to see if you were worthy of holding the Kibou, the sword made of, for and by my own pleasure and power' and 'And one mere man is supposed to provide hope for an entire kingdom by the power of his own might? That sort of thinking by Carolus... is the exactly same thing that gives Ramseur the Stratifier power in the first place! The same power that created the Kibou.'

Biggest wtf moment was the 5th KBs secret. Really didn't expect Catawba to be North's fiance and its also really heavily implied that she's Fayette's mother. As Carolus was half-KB and born for him to become the new king, it makes sense for Fayette to be one too considering how much the Govan want her to be queen.

Posted on: 2010/8/8 13:00


Re: Three the Hard Way #1509
Offline   IvanaDeRossi
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MP : 506 / 11387
OMG kids with HIM?! I've defeated Teachey but never heard him saying that... (or it's either I got a bad memory)

Actually her being his fiance didn't really shocked me for some reason

And how was it 'heavily implied' that she's her mom? I'm sorry but when I played the game I beat her so I didn't know much about the alternate ending if she was alive...

Oh and that Ramseur cutscene... was it in the ruins? Can't seem to remember

Posted on: 2010/8/8 14:49


Re: Three the Hard Way #1510
Offline   wrathofnature
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MP : 1 / 44
To be exact during the Teachy cutscene [spoler] after Marion and Ramseur make the deal Marion tells him to go to Durham Valley and that they were 'going to be spending a lot of time together.' Later after Carolus kills his sister he tracks her down and calls her mother and asks how she could still be alive given as he saw the dead bodies of his whole family. She's his mother and its pretty much given that Ramseur is his father. Total setup to make him king.

Now for Catawba, lots of little hints that when taken together makes it pretty implied.

1) Fayette thinks she smiles like her mother, same manerisms, etc.
2) She tells North after she is revealed as pretending to be his fiance (which was all a plan to keep him away from Ormus the Ravager whose kind of a polar opposite to her) that she had done this type of thing before and it had worked out well (
3) If you keep her alive when she enters Duke/Duchess room she remarks, 'Same as always' or something like that and generally seems as little too familar with Fayette
4) The other KBs say stuff like her spending a lot of time in Burlington and all her relationships with the party (North and Vance would be 2 of them)
5) It would fit with the idea that Marion wants half-KB on throne. Considering its implied she had half-KB kid instead of picking random person it makes it sound like being half-KB is important.

And I think there's some other stuff that I can't quite remeber now. Taken all together there's quite a bit pointing to her being Fayette's mother, through it's never explicity said so. Green's ducy Dillon and Fayette's Burlington have the opposite philosophies and both leaders think of each other as being evil. Personally I think Dillon = Ormus, Burlington = Catawba.


Ramseur's cutscene is when you fight him in the ruins. For the leader of the KB he's a total joke and massive AI roulette battle, either he uses useless abilities or he spams his ultimate spell repeatedely (and even when he does this he's still easy to beat). The real challenge is just getting to him. That crystal puzzle there is very satisfying to finish.

Posted on: 2010/8/8 16:14


Re: Three the Hard Way #1511
Offline   IvanaDeRossi
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HP : 161 / 805
MP : 506 / 11387
You mean ORRUM the Ravager, not Ormus.

Heh you can finish the crystal puzzle without the cheat? I gave up half way and just used the walkthrough x)

Posted on: 2010/8/9 2:15


Re: Three the Hard Way #1512
Offline   dessertrose
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Level : 4
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MP : 12 / 958
Wow, great observations!
This games story really has it all

Arrgh, why isn't the sequel out already?

Posted on: 2010/8/9 20:14
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Re: Three the Hard Way #1513
Offline   IvanaDeRossi
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Level : 33
EXP : 20
HP : 161 / 805
MP : 506 / 11387
Argh I can easily beat Rowland and FINALLY beat Morven but Kenley is a pain in the butt >_<

Posted on: 2010/8/11 7:10


Re: Three the Hard Way #1514
Offline   UntoldReveries
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Level : 40
EXP : 59
HP : 395 / 989
MP : 853 / 11403
Have you tried the strategy by Sage of the Wise?

Quote:
Ok, the fighting pit is really easy once you understand the coding and how rpgmaker works. Pretty much you score when you are next to them and hit the enter key, and they score when they move into the square your in. Except, due to how rpgmaker works, if you hit enter while facing them, that also triggers their hit code, so they still get a score. So the key is to know its perfectly ok for them to just be next to you, and to never face them while attacking. After that you just need to know their movement patterns:

Rowland - walk towards, walk towards, wait, walk away
Morven - walk towads, wait
Kenly - walk towards, walk towards, walk away
Anderson - walk towards, walk towards, walk towards, wait
Just set yourself up so when by the time they get next to you they're next movement is either wait or walk away, and hit enter when they get there, just dont face them. The first 2 battles are a joke with this strategy. With the third, run around in a corner while Anderson summons all the fire so its all in about the same spot. When that's done continue as normal. Its a little harder since hes so fast but its not that bad.

Posted on: 2010/8/11 10:15
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Re: Three the Hard Way #1515
Offline   IvanaDeRossi
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EXP : 20
HP : 161 / 805
MP : 506 / 11387
Yeah I did but for some reason I can hit both Rowland and Morven when I'm next to them (not face-to-face) but when I did that when Kenley it won't hit him at all and he keeps getting two points until I lose. I managed to get two points at max and I need to hit him face-to-face

Posted on: 2010/8/11 10:35


Re: Three the Hard Way #1516
Offline   IvanaDeRossi
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Level : 33
EXP : 20
HP : 161 / 805
MP : 506 / 11387
OK I'm at Campobello and ARGH!!! I can't decided if I should take the ferry or Arcadia route >_< I think the Arcadia one is the BEST because you get to recruit with North and Clifton faster and you'll have that levitating Grimorum for Kanna and you can collect all of the Rune Tablets (I think) but I've already went that route before...


And the ferry route is... well... I think it's too 'boring' even though it's 'story-wise' >_<

Arghhhh I can't choose!!! >-<

Posted on: 2010/8/13 10:08


Re: Three the Hard Way #1517
Offline   VelvetDew
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MP : 112 / 4884
True, gameplaywise Arcadia path is the best. But if you haven't checked out the Ferry one earlier, I suggest opting for it. You may be in for a suprise

Not only would you get to meet Roper (additional PC) who's quite an interesting character but also 'missing' pieces of story will be revealed. It's up to you

Posted on: 2010/8/13 13:41
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Re: Three the Hard Way #1518
Offline   wrathofnature
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MP : 1 / 44
In terms of rewards the Arcadia route is cleary the best route to take. It's unforunate that the routes are so slanted in favour of one of them.

Arcadia route: You get to kill B&M for all the stuff they stole from you and get Kanna the levitation grimoire. This let's you get all sorts of secret goodies. Also allows you to get to Teachy without needing to walk around randomly (well that's how I find him when I don't have the book, if you got the book you just need to take every leftmost [or rightmost, can't remember which direction now] passage and you end up in front of a chasm over lava. Kanna floats you over and you just go straight to Teachy). You get a bit of plot in this route too.

Ferry route: You get a new character going this route. Roper isn't too useful through imo, and I think you need to choose between taking her or Clifton at the very end if you also got Tatum in your party. The main reason to take this route is because there is a lot of plot here and shows you how screwed up Greene really is.

Mountain route: The worst route to take. Any loot you find walking up the mountain you can get backtracking on the other routes (and there's nothing that's really good) Also, I think this is the only route where you have to Greene with only 3 party members. You're rewarded with a nothing good, little plot and a very hard fight. The only thing great about this route is the scene after you beat Greene. Matteo popping out behind Greene at the end and 1-shotting him and Vance commenting to himself, 'Typical, trying to make Matteo look more badass by finishing Greene' or something like that. Hilarious.

Overall, take Arcadia if you want the best in game rewards and ferry route is you want plot. Go mountain route only if you want to clear the route once and see what there.

Posted on: 2010/8/13 13:52


Re: Three the Hard Way #1519
Offline   IvanaDeRossi
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MP : 506 / 11387
Actually, I've taken all routes but ended my game with the Arcadia one. And you can always have Roper even if you haven't taken the ferry route. (by beating Orrum of course)

So yeah I'm taking the ferry route >.< lmao I still managed to get the long sword and derrancivil-something essence in the Colerain mountain and still get to go the ferry route xP

Posted on: 2010/8/14 6:50


Re: Three the Hard Way #1520
Offline   dessertrose
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MP : 12 / 958
Quote:
Ivana wrote:
And you can always have Roper even if you haven't taken the ferry route. (by beating Orrum of course)


Wow, really? How? On the other routes, I only got to meet her but she didn't join my party... Orrum was one of the KB's I defeated every time I played.

Posted on: 2010/8/14 14:12
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