Murder is a natural crime and im all up for capital punishment,the people want someone to pay for these crimes even if they are children we need to toss them to the wolfs.

"The tuition wasn't cheap, but you learned a lesson that'll save your skin going forward."~Rupert


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~Mopiece

I was 5 when my older brother decided he liked little girls. I was his first. He was 14. He didn't stop with me. He also molested my younger sisters and later on he molested his daughter. I wonder if he had been caught and punished if he would of gone as far as he did. So, yes, the juvenile in question should be punished. If a boy at that age doesn't know right from wrong at that point, he probably never will.

@honby: that *insert a lot of swear words*! Was he sentenced and/or handled?

Preferably a method that involves a lot of pain.

@honby- Sorry to say this but you should have told someone earlier and saved all the others

@honby
I agree that you should have told someone earlier....but I understand....its awkward to tell someone about this sometimes. I know people like that. All the same, if he tries anything on you again, please do tell someone so he can be stopped.

BTW, the guy and his family have left the neighborhood and country citing personal reasons. So guess, we won't have any action

I read this in National Geographic somewhere . . . this was in Afghanistan (spelling?) but this is the story:

A twelve year old girl was married to a paralized 70 year old man. And because she was so young that she couldn't lift him, she was beaten by her husbands brothers.

BECAUSE SHE COULDN'T LIFT HIM!!!

For crying out loud! I was taught that I was to keep my mouth shut. When I did tell my Mom what had happened I'll tell you what happened. She took a pair of scissors to my hair and proceeded to cut it all off. Her reasoning? I was no longer a virgin and therefore I was a whore. Whores are not entitled to having long hair. That is reserved for maidens of pure virtue. I was 16 when I told her. Don't tell me that I had the responsibility to protect my sisters when I could not protect myself. Please have all the facts before you condemn someone. By the way, I am now 56 years old and I can still remember what my brother told me back then. "Now if tell Mom, I'll tell her you lied. And then you'll get the belt." So I started to wet the bed at night and I still got beat with the belt. Heck of a lesson for a 5 year old, don't you think?

By the way, my brother died earlier this year. I have learned not to look for revenge. I have too many other things to do to hate someone. I have found that hate doesn't hurt the one being hated-but it DOES do terrible things to the one left hating.

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~Mopiece

@honyb: I ... don 't know how to respond to that without sounding like a bad hallmark card.

My condolences sounds idiotic.
Hope the prick dies- well the dude's dead already.

Ummm

hug?

(Not trying to mock or anything like that. just really don't know how to respond.)

No problem. I didn't mean to come off like a old curmudgeon. But some things DO hit me the wrong way. And I believe in karma. What goes around comes around. So, getting off of the subject and unto another-

Merry Christmas to all and a wonderful New Year!!

@honby
I'm really sorry if I made you feel that way. Really, I am. Like KTC, I don't know how to respond. I'm really sorry.

@honby50
I'm very sorry to hear what happened to you when you were a child. Despite all the pain and suffering you had to go through, but I'm glad you'd managed to find strength to lived on.

@All
I once met a pervert when I was on my way to school in my early teens. No serious harm was done, though I did tried my hardest to claw-scratch him as hard as I could with my then untrimmed nails before I ran like the wind to the safety of the main road. Still the incident shook me back then. though I was safe but the thought of it stayed on for several days before I return to my usual self and it was after a year or so that I was able to speak of it freely when similar topics risen.

Having faced a sex predator, whether the victim was a child or an adult, there would be a certain amount of damaged made to the person in various aspect (especially mentally and psychologically). The incident alone is enough to traumatized the victim but post events that follow the exposure of such sexual crime by the victim can sometime bring more suffering to the victim.

Anyone can easily say, "You should have told someone/authorities and the pervert could be taken care of". Unfortunately, many a times standing up to such incident can backfire and hurt the victim more. Going up against such sex criminals are not easy and requires a great amount of courage and a lot of support from the people around you. There are people who will force the victims into silence save theirs or the predator's skin, especially in cases where the predator is a person who the victim knows or a person of high social standings. There are also people, especially the "passerby crowd" who does nothing to help but their constant stares and attitudes towards the victim may unintentionally put the victim in the spotlight as if he/she's been branded for life and that they would have to bear the shame and humiliation all their lives.

Sorry, I'm totally out of topic. I guess as a female myself, I sort of feel strongly about such incidents, especially violence against women. People should recognize such problems and learn how best to help the victims. I'm sure there are articles online and in magazines nowadays that'll talk on such matters.

Back on topic...As for minors, they should be punished for whatever crimes or misdoings. Too young to understand? What nonsense! Then make 'em! Sorry, I'm a little carried away... But at the very least the minors must learn that whatever crimes they had done were wrong and should never be attempted again.

Well said Elie! Well said. Just cuz they're(I'm) kids(some say I'm still a kid) doesn't mean that I can commit such crimes. We have to make kids understand what they're crimes could do to people no matter how young they are.

And now that you mention it, I've faced a sex predator too. It happened a few months ago actually.

"Unfortunately, many a times standing up to such incident can backfire and hurt the victim more."

very correct.

As for the question at hand, I think it depends very much on the situation. There ought to be repercussions for minors as well as adults for their crimes, but punished? I'm still undecided about that. Where I come from, you become an adult in the eyes of the law at fifteen, you are then expected to understand right from wrong. Not that punishments here are all that severe for adults either. Looking at sentence lengths rape is a mitigating factor in threatening to kill someone (and no, not for the victim, but for the rapist!). But I'm getting off-topic. Undecided on the whole punishing minors thing.

For me at the age of 14, you know what you want to do. I knew not to commit crimes at 14, so did everyone else on AM. Why did'nt he?

"Why did'nt he?"

^ He DID know and didn't care.

Going from your previous statement:
He captured her when the street was secluded and took her to a nearby abandoned house and did this.

^ You don't kidnap and take the girl to a location where no one can hear the girl scream unless you knew it was wrong. He planned this.

@KTC- Exactly. And he knew she'd scream and be hurt, that's why he took her there

The fact that they left the country shows clearly that the family knew the boy was guilty. Still so, he shouldn't have been let go like that? Was nothing done? No penalty?

I think you guys should look up the case of James Bulger.

@theone
really? he left without any penalty? My gosh. Seriously, no cime for taking away that little girl's innocence? That boy is in for it in heaven unless he really feels sorry for he's done before he dies. I swear I'm near that guys age and I feel ashamed of the name he's giving kids our age these days.....*sighs*