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Wrong.I've worked in places where guys have had long hair.Also most dress codes in regards to hair state that it has to be kept tidy and clean by both genders. with jewelery it depends on the job.In the food industry its a safety concern with jewelery so hoops and any that can get caught are not allowed. it has happened in my school, someone's lip ring got caught on a plan or something and was pulled out. In the end each work place with have its own rules in regards to dress code. not every job will have the same dress code. When it comes to getting a job, looking polished and professional, regardless if you have long hair or not is what is a more important factor in getting a job.Also being qualified for the job. @Kenneth Is there a reason why they banned long hair for guys. You mentioned a event occurred which brought forward this rule. would it be possible for you to tell us what this event was, so we can better understand why this rule to be made. Sit down and have a discussion with your principal in regards to this proposed plan. They will be more inclined to listen to what you have to say if you are polite and mature in discussing the issue instead of creating a scene and basically acting like a spoiled child.
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| Re: Jewelry,accesories and few several things banned in schools? | #82 | ||||||||||
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Unless you go to a vocational school, then 90% of what you learn in high school is wasted. I'm sticking by that until you can prove otherwise. Also, I went to one of the worst middle schools in my country, but one of the best high schools in my country. Also, as a working individual, let me tell you that employers couldn't care less what you learned in school for the most part. They need you to have minimum competency in your field of education, and the rest is based on how well you deal with people and your level of practical experience.
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| Re: Jewelry,accesories and few several things banned in schools? | #83 | ||||||||||
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lovinlife wrote: It depends on the high school you go to. In mine 90% of what is taught in high school is why people know that the DNA of a fruit fly is compatible to that of a human being. That dry ice is frozen CO2. That Newton gets on my last nerve and so does Bard Simpson. And recently I heard that insect legs are one of the ingredients in hot chocolate. (I hope it’s just a myth. I love chocolate). High school is a major part of a person’s life. If you don’t go to good middle schools, you don’t get into good high schools. And certainly not into good colleges/universities. Thus, no good job. Why would we ever need to know the DNA of fruit fly or that dry Ice is CO2? Unless, you become a scientist this information is useless
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| Re: Jewelry,accesories and few several things banned in schools? | #84 | ||||||||||
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@kleptin: As it was stated before, it does vary from school to school. But no one can say that high school is flat out not important. High school helps you figure out where your passion lies, students are need to be taught what they desire. HS is like this snack counter; you try different things, dabble in everything and see what you like best.
It also helps you explore every part of your curiosity; it helps you learn that you would have been a frog in the well if you hadn’t gone to high school. It helps you make mistakes & learn from them - if you don’t fall down, how can you get up? It brings out your competitiveness. Moreover, writing, learning and leadership skills do help people in the real world thanks to HS. Perhaps the scheme isn’t flawless, but the fundamental principle for the chase on learning and acquiring knowledge definitely exists. And what about social skills? People could mix with all different types/kinds of people due to the subsistence of high school. It isn’t the same thing as hanging out with friends. Learning to interact communally is a required skill, I bet when people do have jobs, they’ll have to interact with people they dislike & have to deal with them. Worst middle school/best high school: Schools do teach students skills and also, bring out a student’s way of thinking. If a student fails/succeed, it is mainly the students fault/hard work. Blaming/praising the school alone would be ignorant. You can think for yourself. Schools don’t teach you how to think, but only provide all the necessary tools to do so. Last stanza: Well, that again, depends on the job you’re doing. Also, the society as a general usually likes the easy way out. If people did know how to read and write from birth and are downright interested in a field, they could do all of it by self studying/learning. However, many people don’t like learning in the first place, how would they learn on their own? It’s common to find such people & that is why high schools exist. Take for example, the whole high school phenomenon was abolished in a society, the consequences will be the whole society itself falling backwards. People as a whole do benefit, big time, from high schools. It’s reality. @theone: People have the freedom of choice in careers. Regardless, whether you’re to become a scientist or an artist or a janitor, you still do learn the required subject matter, skills, etc. in school (high school, in particular).
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Really Laracroft? So tell me then, would you rather have this as your doctor
![Open in new window](javascript:CaricaFoto("http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8342/2478753caucasianmidadul.jpg");) Or this? ![Open in new window](javascript:CaricaFoto("http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9483/istockphoto9808110asian.jpg");) Better yet, which would you hire?
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| Re: Jewelry,accesories and few several things banned in schools? | #86 | ||||||||||
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Neither. The second is an actor, the first is someone I would never make my doctor.
 On a more serious note, a janitor would not require any skills. What school teaches you is Social skills and a load of useless information. Even professional medical colleges teach you useless names in the first 2 years which you will never use
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The role you assign to high school has traditionally been the one given to college in terms of self-discovery and pursuit of interests. This is because you are given a choice of curriculum in college and in High School, your choices are SEVERELY limited unless you go to some sort of specialized High School. It's not a snack counter. It's a packaged meal that happens to have a lot of stuff in it, but the same stuff every day. Quote:
High Schools don't teach leadership nor do they teach learning. Neither of those things can be taught in a classroom or from a book. As for writing, I'll grant you that point for now. Quote:
If you re-read my initial argument, you would see that this was the only thing about high school I had no problem with. Stay on topic. My argument is that high school is nearly academically useless. Quote:
No, no they don't. If anything, they restrict thinking because everyone is focused on grades. Students learn in the manner they need to learn in order to get good grades in classes that don't matter, instead of learning the way that comes best to them and allows them to succeed in life. The merits of high school do not outweigh the fact that it makes kids waste many years of their lives that could be spent doing much more productive things. Quote:
The kids who don't like to learn and who have that much difficulty with self-motivation tend to struggle through high-school one repeated year after the next. Quote:
It's reality, but it isn't practicality. If I tell you that I'll give you $10 for something you bought for 50 cents, then you benefit. If I gave you $10 to be my slave for 7 years, then there is no benefit. The issue here isn't the benefit. It's the cost. High school can easily be redesigned to have all the benefits while avoiding a lot of the problems. A 4 year curriculum in High School can essentially be whittled down to 2 years, or less. Quote:
On this note, the DNA of a fruit fly is not compatible with that of a human. It's comparable, but not compatible. Insect legs are also not an ingredient in candy bars. It's a contaminant that the FDA has a maximum percentage of. There are traces of disgusting things in ANYTHING that we eat. It's ironic that two false facts were used to support an argument for the quality and significance of High School education. Merged post. Please use your edit button to add extra information. ~Mopiece
Posted on: 2011/2/7 22:25
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@ Kipani
Both these doctors have tattoos. ![Open in new window](javascript:CaricaFoto("http://www.nvdaily.com/lifestyle/images/tattoo_bet4_9.22.9.jpg");) He has tattoos, but you can't see them when he is dressed as a doctor. ![Open in new window](javascript:CaricaFoto("http://www.tatuagem.com.br/images/stories/tattooed-doctor.jpg");) Having tattoos, or piercings doesn't make them lessor of a doctor or professional in any field. I'm pretty sure if he were a doctor he wouldn't be wearing those piercings in the workplace. Also most people when they go for interviews they don't dress like that. Its pretty much common sense to wear a suit to a interview.
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The role you assign to high school has traditionally been the one given to college in terms of self-discovery and pursuit of interests. This is because you are given a choice of curriculum in college and in High School, your choices are SEVERELY limited unless you go to some sort of specialized High School. It's not a snack counter. It's a packaged meal that happens to have a lot of stuff in it, but the same stuff every day. ^So, first it’s vocational, now its specialized high school. I think I’ve been stressing on the point for the past two posts. ^Also, in order to get into college, you need do need a backup from high school. Quote: High Schools don't teach leadership nor do they teach learning. Neither of those things can be taught in a classroom or from a book. As for writing, I'll grant you that point for now. ^Oh yes, leadership & learning skills are taught in high school. Very much indeed. I wouldn’t think of a better place - for scouting, camping, community service etc. to be done in a whole group with guidance, assistance, security & awards being arranged for it - than HS. And you do learn a lot from such experience. Quote: If you re-read my initial argument, you would see that this was the only thing about high school I had no problem with. Stay on topic. My argument is that high school is nearly academically useless. ^And that is incorrect. High school is very academically useful. It sure is for all those people out there who could do with nothing but high school for a brighter, better future. Quote: No, no they don't. If anything, they restrict thinking because everyone is focused on grades. Students learn in the manner they need to learn in order to get good grades in classes that don't matter, instead of learning the way that comes best to them and allows them to succeed in life. The merits of high school do not outweigh the fact that it makes kids waste many years of their lives that could be spent doing much more productive things. ^I don’t know what high school you went to, but I would’ve suggested transferring. Quote: The kids who don't like to learn and who have that much difficulty with self-motivation tend to struggle through high-school one repeated year after the next. ^And going through high school is a much better option than staying at home, having no one to guide you the whole way through and eventually turning out very backward fallen in the society. Quote: It's reality, but it isn't practicality. ^Just so you know, common sense applies to reality. Also, high school gives you practical skills in life. Quote: If I tell you that I'll give you $10 for something you bought for 50 cents, then you benefit. If I gave you $10 to be my slave for 7 years, then there is no benefit. The issue here isn't the benefit. It's the cost. High school can easily be redesigned to have all the benefits while avoiding a lot of the problems. A 4 year curriculum in High School can essentially be whittled down to 2 years, or less. ^I wouldn’t take the 10 bucks to begin with :p ^Well, that’s easier said than done. The example doesn’t really draw a parallel to your point, btw. Quote: On this note, the DNA of a fruit fly is not compatible with that of a human. It's comparable, but not compatible. Insect legs are also not an ingredient in candy bars. It's a contaminant that the FDA has a maximum percentage of. There are traces of disgusting things in ANYTHING that we eat. It's ironic that two false facts were used to support an argument for the quality and significance of High School education. ^I wouldn’t blame high school just because I hit the wrong word in a mishap. ^The insect legs idea wasn’t taught in class, it was just a conversation a bunch of people had in the cafeteria and those people were, as stated before, unsure of it anyway. ^So, just imagine the number of false facts that people would’ve been actually taking into account if they hadn’t gone to high school. And thereby, the irony balances out.
Posted on: 2011/2/8 4:46
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There're still some high schools that teach not-so-important-lessons. For example; if you were choosing for sciences instead of social studies, you'd still taught about history and or culturistic things(that's no related with science) which is completely no use if you were going to be a doctor. And yes, the importance of those subjects depends to whats you're going to be or how you want to use that informations.
Posted on: 2011/2/8 5:38
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I apologize in advance, but I'm going to try to speed this up a little. I may come off as a bit brash, but I need to hit some key points.
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I honestly have no idea what you've been "stressing", but vocational school is just another example of a specialized high school. You *are* aware that I'm arguing against a traditional average American public school, right? Quote:
That's not true. Homeschooling has gotten much more popular. You don't need to go to high school, you just need to pass all the requisite examinations. And even then, the requisite examinations are questionable to me. I'm asking you to abandon the linearity you've been fed since you were born, not limit this discussion to them. Quote: Oh yes, leadership & learning skills are taught in high school. Very much indeed. I wouldn’t think of a better place - for scouting, camping, community service etc. to be done in a whole group with guidance, assistance, security & awards being arranged for it - than HS. And you do learn a lot from such experience. Yeah, point me to a high school where scouting, camping, and community service are all required parts of the curriculum and I'll show you how it's definitely not the average high school. All of these things are extracurricular activities. Quote: And that is incorrect. High school is very academically useful. It sure is for all those people out there who could do with nothing but high school for a brighter, better future.[/i] Flowery language is not the same as a logical argument. This is just a statement of disagreement and a restatement of your thesis. Please support your arguments instead of just rephrasing them over and over again. I posit that the vast majority of hours spent in high school are dedicated to learning mandatory things that have little to no practical use. This time would be better spent given to the students to choose what they want to learn. Quote:
Since we're not talking about background, may I ask you if you've attended college? Quote:
Strawman fallacy and false dichotomy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma Quote:
Argument by popularity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum A belief that is common does not necessarily reflect reality. Furthermore, something realistic is not necessarily practical. IN ADDITION, my statement that High school isn't practical is not the same as saying that high school gives you no practical skills. Learning 1 practical thing and sitting on your hands for 6 hours is not practical. High school is impractical because the structure fails to make the best out of the mandatory time they take from kids. Quote:
It's a waste of time to criticize the analogy when you have no response to the argument. Do you or do you not understand my point that the benefits of highschool are not worth the cost? Quote:
You're still operating under the false assumption that I'm proposing that kids stay home and play video games instead of go to high school. I'm talking about restructuring the average American high school so that it stops being an academic failure and makes better use of time.
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In my country someone with a HS education is much more likely to be hired over a dropout. HSers are forced to exercise their brains so are generally smart enough to problem solve more IRL things a DO wouldnt.
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Let me state it this way: If you go to a typical average American high school, you're getting a really bad education. If you drop out, you're getting no education at all. Am I the only one here that thinks we should talk about why the education sucks instead of treat it as the lesser of two evils?
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This is getting a little off topic. Remember, this topic was about a school's dress code, not the value of education.
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I'll branch it off.
Posted on: 2011/2/8 22:49
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