Oh, I just had to find an excuse to revive the club. And Aveyond or no, I still like poking around the daeva myth. I still don't get why this Zoroaster guy suddenly up and declared that the daevas are TEH EVULZ when they used to be the national gods.

Anyways.

I just found this big book of Greek Myth in Costco. Apparently there's more same-gender "romance" (I'm not sure I can trust the Ancient Greeks when they say "fall in love" ) in the Greek Myth than I'm aware of. Looks like those myth books that I've been reading are hiding stuff from me. Maybe those books are old school and thinks same-gender pairings are bad. I dunno.

Big Good Zeus = AUGH. I remember in Olympus Guardians the Movie, they made Zeus have the ability to RAISE THE FREAKING DEAD. Even though the dead and the underworld is Hades' territory and Zeus can't do anything beside try and nag Hades into doing it. Whoever is the story-writer of that animated movie needs to be shot. And the artists too. They don't seem to know ANYTHING about the Greek myth. Not even at the very least the original OG series. Blerp.

Why yes, I'm recycling old news. I just recently watched the old OG series again and it just reminded me how awful the "movie" is.

You mean you didn't know that the Greeks approve of homosexual relationship? Anyway, Ancient Greeks consider women inferior to men, so of course male-to-male relationship is considered something great. Though the only myth I know that tells about that is about Zeus and Ganymede.

Not the way the greeks did it.

The pairings had to be an older man and a younger one. If they were the same age, they were frowned upon/harrassed/etc.

@Rogue: I was aware of it Just that I wasn't aware there's a whole lot of it happening in the myths. I mean, the bigger stuff that we constantly hear is the hetero stuffs. I thought Ganymede was this one-off thing.

I should've expected it when I came to know of the Scared Band of Thebes. If same-gender relationships happen all the time in real life, why not myths?

about the homosexual relations thing, it was more a matter of status than a matter of love.

Like KTC sai before, there was always and older man and a younger one. The youngster ussually wanted to gain te favor of the elder mostly.

Homosexual relationships ussually were yet another way to show your are dominant over the other, by having the... active role in the relationship (not going in detail)

So while they did aprove of these relationships, it is nowhere comparable by homosexual relationships nowadays.

I know. Except that I was discussing MYTHS here, and the book is always saying "insert god name here fell in love with this preeeeetty boy and then stuff happens", to which I commented "I honestly can't trust Greek Myth books when they say "fall in love".

Especially if it's Zeus. He always falls in lust, not love and discards the goods after he tires of them.

But if it wasn´t for Zeus his special hobbies, the greek myth books would be a lot smaller lol

eeeh, it's not exactly the issue of whether or not he's doing them. I'm being iffy at the word choice the books used. They sure do use "fall in love" a lot, even though I can't exactly say what happened was love.

@agas: perhaps your books at fault since I don't remember 'falling in love' popping up a lot in the myth books I've read from.

Easier to say "fall in love" than "I like your body and I want to ravage it until I tire of it. I don't care if you resist either, I will have you." lol.

In that one book it kinda shows up a lot But they all end up with the person in question dead because some other jealous god/goddess interfered. Joy. Or the ones that ended happily, like Eros and Psyche *shrug*

Maybe because it's safer to read for younger readers? Anyway, I notice that 'love' is used to describe any attraction between characters, whether or not it's actually real love.
Realize that in fairy tales the setting goes: handsome guy meets pretty girl, they fall in love, get married and live happily ever after?It's quite obvious that when there's only physical attraction, it's more lust than love...

Eros and Psyche is one of the very few happily married couples in the classical myth, I think. The others being Hades & Persophone, and the pair of old mortal couple Baucis and Philemon.

Same with KTC. All of my Greek myths books never mentioned Zeus "fell in love" with said nympth/mortal/whatevs.

Eh the Eros and Psyche one had a bad ending. The one where Psyche turned into an owl who always asks "Who? Who?" because Eros disappeared at night.

@Ivana: er, what? I don't know which version you read, but from what I read, Psyche managed to finish the tasks Aphrodite sent her to do and finally married Eros/Cupid and live happily ever after.

There were 3 endings in the book that I've read. The "happy" one, the owl one and the other I forgot what is is.

Also in fairy tales, they are mostly for children so I think that's why they just write if off as 'fall in love'. Who's to say what happened in the progress and they really do love each other? The authors probably want to write it as simple as possible.

edit: Here's the link to the other version btw.

http://members.tripod.com/~Angel_Twin/index.html

I have read an owl transormation as well somewhere, but an owl asking "who?who?" makes a lot of sense in an English story, but I doubt that the word who translates to who in greek, so maybe it was a modern adaptation or something?

I never said the fall in love thing applies to Zeus. I just said the book mentions "fall in love" a lot, and that wasn't even a children's book! It's this serious-business-looking book that looks thick and scary for little kids.

And like I said, " fall in love" is seems to be the generic word for attraction, whether or not the it's actually true love/crush/obsession/lust/stalker/etc. Still, I agree that it'd be annoying to read, since it would make the whole concept of love seems cheap.

Ah. The point entirely. I keep forgetting that "love" is such a cheap word in the USofA. How stupid and naive of me

lol the words "greek mythology" and "cheap love" make me now think of one of those people on fb that change their relationship status on FB all the time, saying that they never loved anyone else so much als they love their current boyfriend, and so on.