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Re: The Gamer's Club #2141
Offline   daeva_agas
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See? Aveyond IS technically JRPG! The story is set in stone and you have to follow it no matter what. "Customizing the party's equipment" and the little choice we get in regards of pairings do not count.

@KTC: Yeah, obviously there's exceptions in everything. I guess you're right, KTC. JRPG is VN with more freedom in control.

@binas: Both WRPG and JRPG are RPGs. They just have different feels. What the heck are you trying to say?

Posted on: 2012/4/20 19:42
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Re: The Gamer's Club #2142
Offline   IvanaDeRossi
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@binas: Both WRPG and JRPG are RPGs. They just have different feels. What the heck are you trying to say?


^that.

Posted on: 2012/4/20 22:50


Re: The Gamer's Club #2143
Offline   princessbinas
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I mean they have diffrent standards but are the same in a way.

Posted on: 2012/4/21 8:33
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Re: The Gamer's Club #2144
Offline   IvanaDeRossi
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Quote:
Aveyond would be a good example of RPG.


Uh wth? Aveyond is an RPG, if not then what's it doing in the RPG section in the site? = = Or did you just forgot to type 'J' before RPG? You know, you really should proofread your posts before posting them. (8


Quote:
Maybe JRPGs are just RPGs in Japanese form.
I mean they have diffrent standards but are the same in a way.


Um isn't that kinda obvious? And what's the point of your post? Argoyle already explained it unless you actually don't read other people's posts.

Posted on: 2012/4/21 12:52


Re: The Gamer's Club #2145
Offline   daeva_agas
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@binas: Ditto Ivana. Why are you repeating the obvious that has been stated previously?

Posted on: 2012/4/21 15:15
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Re: The Gamer's Club #2146
Offline   princessbinas
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Just to reassure myself and others by simplifying. Sorry. But one thing I still don't get. Why is that there has to be 2 types?

Posted on: 2012/4/21 18:47
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Re: The Gamer's Club #2147
Offline   IvanaDeRossi
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Why is that there has to be 2 types?


Praytell, why do we have 2 types, "horror" movie and "romance" movie, when they practically belong to the same category? (8

Annnnd, ya, don't have ta worry, you're gonna hit your 1000th post mark soon.

Posted on: 2012/4/22 0:12


Re: The Gamer's Club #2148
Offline   KTC
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Two types? Let me show you a detailed diagram of the different types of RPGS: Click


Posted on: 2012/4/22 20:19
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Re: The Gamer's Club #2149
Offline   theAdept_Rogue
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Care to clarify on what those lines are supposed to mean?

Posted on: 2012/4/22 20:54


Re: The Gamer's Club #2150
Offline   KTC
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plot lines lol.

Posted on: 2012/4/22 21:25
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Re: The Gamer's Club #2151
Offline   princessbinas
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The last one looks like it's all over the place and very disorganized. But 4 really? I guess I was not aware of that.

Posted on: 2012/4/23 18:28
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Re: The Gamer's Club #2152
Offline   KTC
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@binas: The chart is a joke about several popular RPG making companies. I'm sure there's more than four companies that make rpgs.

The last one is a very apt description of elder scrolls, a bethesda game. There's a primary plot, but there's so many side quests that you can easily go through hours right from the start without touching the main plot at all.

Example: For Elder Scrolls: Skyrim, I didn't touch the main plot easily until the 3rd hour or so and by then, I had a very long list of side quests left to do.

Posted on: 2012/4/23 19:10
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Re: The Gamer's Club #2153
Offline   daeva_agas
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I'm not sure I quite understand how the Nintendo RPG plot structure works. There's plenty of side quests that go nowhere?

Posted on: 2012/4/23 20:42
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Re: The Gamer's Club #2154
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@agas: pretty much. Pokemon = 1 plot and some side quests (gotta catch them all, getting a bike, etc.) that do not affect the main plotline.

Posted on: 2012/4/23 21:01
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Re: The Gamer's Club #2155
Offline   princessbinas
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I wonder where Aveyond would fall on that plot chart.

Posted on: 2012/4/23 21:25
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Re: The Gamer's Club #2156
Offline   KTC
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Nintendo imo.

There's side quests and only one plotline. While there are alternative endings, the games only follow one canon disregarding the rest.

Posted on: 2012/4/23 22:56
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Re: The Gamer's Club #2157
Offline   daeva_agas
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Yep, definitely Nintendo. Most of the sidequests don't go anywhere and hardly affects the main plot. That is, other than some semi-important one that involves stuff you'd need for future quests. E.g pick lilies for William, who will give you a hat that you'll need to retrieve the map for the squirrells.

Posted on: 2012/4/24 2:36
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Re: The Gamer's Club #2158
Offline   theAdept_Rogue
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With that in mind, how does the side quests in the other two RPGs (Bioware and Bethesda) work? Seems that the side quests doesn't affect the flow of the storyline either, aside from (probably) giving you more exp, equipments, and other stuffs you might need later...

Posted on: 2012/4/24 4:36


Re: The Gamer's Club #2159
Offline   IvanaDeRossi
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Just finished Love and War. While the plotline itself isn't some kinda guile machination (act II isn't out yet soooooo), the characters and atmosphere felt so real that you just can't help but be captivated by the game. The NPCs have names and you actually really talk to them instead of the typical accosting of "man" and "woman" with no face sets. Since you ARE living in the neighbourhood in your whole life, it makes sense to be acquainted with your neighbours.

There were some minor bugs in the game (mostly just the walking speed descreasing at some point) but nothing unfixable. Admiral Styles, the creator, seems to be going to make a revamp of act I, which will have better graphics and voice acting which doesn't actually suck so hurrah! 8D

Ok, now back to being depressed and get myself to finish ABL and The Way....

Posted on: 2012/4/24 5:14


Re: The Gamer's Club #2160
Offline   KTC
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@adept rogue:

Bioware:
I've only played Dragon Age and ME where the side quests influence how you get to the ending. The overall ending (baddie gets beaten) is the same, but not the path to the ending.

For example in ME, you can be a total homicidal jerk with no allies or a total saint with plenty of allies and this will affect how well you are off in the end.

Hence why there are red/green loops to the black line.

Bethesda:
It's a bit misleading I guess.
This is from playing Elder Scrolls: Skyrim
It's more of an extreme version of a nintendo game. Yes the sidequests don't matter most of the time, but the sheer number of side quests will distract you. It's inevitable. I don't know anyone who plays Skyrim for the main plotline. No, we get distracted by the environment, the companions, the number of sidequests, the different guilds, the dragons, the number of abilities, the smithing, etc.

Hence the green/red lines that will eventually lead back to the ending but it just takes a very long time to get there. Of course you can take the black path, but you're not really playing the game right as you miss out on a lot lol.

Posted on: 2012/4/24 5:37
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