I think that new weapons are worth havin only if they have some skills (like Rhen's swords) but not necesarily magic abbilities.
Kinda like Devin's skills.
Otherwise it's not a must, as D_A said, since it's the atack points that matter.

well I still don't see the problem with magic, I like it, keeps the game interesting.

Nobody said magic is bad, geez! I don't mind magical party members. I just wanted a non-magical main character FOR ONCE because it would make for an interesting change.

If Uma and/or Nox aren't the actual protagonists, it would be interesting to have a main character who doesn't have magic but has other "skills" (like Mel had in LOT and GON, but this time I'd want more than just two or three).

i am counting on this game i hope this
is one is 60hr game!

Based on the length of the other 6 Aveyond games (not including Ahriman's Prophecy), I'd say a 60 hour game is very unlikely

One AV chapter = ~10-15 hours? I think.
So to get 60 hours, AV4 would need to be around 4-6 chapters long, though probably closer to 5-6.

i think AV 4 should not be chaptered.
i'll like it as a single, independent RPG,but still connected to the previous and upcoming RPGs

I think so too. But I don't mind havin a chaptered AV. I enjoyed the first two just as much as I enjoyed Aveyond 3 and AP.

I wouldn't mind (except the money cost) of a chaptered AV if they are all working together, unlike AV3 which kinda veered on Rabit trails kinda after GoN

Wow I think I'm the only one that doesn't feel excited about seeing Uma and Nox..I was hoping for whole bunch of new awesome characters since I didn't quite find the characters enjoyable in AV3..except in AV3-3...well I'm excited about the game and I hope to play another great story..and really hope that Uma and Nox will be just NPC's -_-'

Now there's a twisted thought. I don't think that's a half bad idea. I takes out all the commotion about the cannon of AV3. It could work

@Moonja: Aww, you forgot me! I'm with you, girl. I'm not all that excited about Uma and Nox either. They're over-rated flat Quirky Cool Factors that aren't exactly interesting. I enjoy poking around with my fanon Uma and Nox, but not so much the canon ones. They're just there to blather on and on about THE PROPHECY and bother Mel and... otherwise bland.

Still, Amanda already confirmed their existence and importance to the plot so I might as well go along with it. I do want to know what kind of character development those two will get.

Same here. I'm not actually too fond of sequels- especially those that is performed by many of the same characters from the previous installment, but have a completely different storyline. It makes it seem that the developers are just too lazy to design new, cool/interesting characters.

Since we know practically nothing of AV4 aside from it having Uma and Nox, I'm just hoping that this game will have better facesets than its previous installments.

@theAdept_Rogue
Yea I'm with you on the faceset thing. I did not like the facesets for Mel and Co. I only liked the new character's faceset like Uma and Nox.

Am I the only one who liked AV3's facesets? I didn't see anything wrong with them.

Some of us have crazy-high standards when it comes to art, apparently.

Te'ijal was fine, Lydia and Ulf looks okay, Uma, Nox, and Yemite were absolutely gorgeous, but the main 3 kids (Mel, Ed, Stella) do NOT look okay and Galahad's face made me scream "WHO DREW THIS AND WHY WAS THIS PICTURE ALLOWED TO EXIST?!?!?!" Because compared to the AV1 faceset, Galahad's AV3 face look hideous. There's a few peeps here in the forums who draw better than that. And the TLO peeps... June and Yvette looks so derpy and only Spook had looked great. Person was apparently not very good at drawing women back when he/she was commissioned.

If only Amanda had gotten hold of Saehral from the first time round *sigh*

Kinda made me wish Amanda went through with the Gyendal-joins-Mel's-party plot all over again. Because he'd have gotten a faceset and I want to see that

I understood the decision of bringing back the twins. A poll was set up in Facebook and a gazillion people asked for Uma and Nox to return, so Amanda listened to the crowds. And the minority community who doesn't like this has to put up with it.

I wonder why didn't she stick with the same artist like in AV1.

Anyway I'm glad that there are a few people that I respect as members and AV lovers that share my opinion. And yeah those two are so overrated. I was hoping to see more about the mysterious druids that we somehow lost them in AV1 and believe me even if the story maybe somehow revolves around them it won't be good to see those two overrated characters in that kind of a story..I just hope Amanda knows what she's doing, nothing else. I guess you can say that I'm a bit worried.

The artist for the AV1 realism facesets got famous and is probably too busy/too expensive to hire now, and I'm not sure what's up with the anime-style version artist.

In AV3 there were 4 different artists doing the facesets, so... One person did Te'i and Galaha, one did the humans + Stella + Ulf, one for TLO's new peeps, and one for TDP.

If Amanda could just steal Saehral away from Indy for a bit to draw the new AV's facesets I'm going to be very happy I keep repeating myself over and over, but seriously! Pretty art! I wants!

Re Uma and Nox: You know, it might actually be interesting to see Uma and Nox get involved with daevas and druids. Just imagine the hijinks that could happen... Oh wait, I'm still seeing it through the bias of my crackAU-tinted lenses where Uma is evil and crack pairings happen. My bad

In a more seriosu note, there's too little we know about Uma and Nox to know how good or bad anything will be, so I have no real comment yet. I'm just hoping there's no "relying on familiarity" and the character development gets cut short. I mean, I know the screaming fans will be "ZOMG UMA N NOX R TEH AWSUM 4EVUH!!!" and any borderline-funny dialogue they make already makes them happy.

Druids returning is forever a plus. Daevas returning even more plus. Armaiti and Vohu Manah must have been AWOL for so long that their shrines are destroyed. We see too little of Ghed'ahre so there's no telling if Rashnu is still around or not. I mean, he doesn't seem to be active around Ghed'ahre because nobody noticed that he's been attacked by Zarich in AV1 and NOBODY MENTIONED HIM AT ALL IN AV3 Aveyond was near-destroyed as per AV2 and got restructured as per AV3 so also no telling what happened to Devin and Vata. Ditto Dreamland and Talia.

Those druids are supposedly so important that they had to be taken out first or else they would hinder the "taking over the world" thing Ahriman got going, but as per AV3 2 has gone AWOL and nobody cares. Unless it meant that they're safe and just wandered off elsewhere, bad continuity is bad, yo.

The daevas are supposedly dead or whatever (bad ending says they're destroyed) but I'm sure a little ret-con can fix it. There's a lot of stuff that have lame explanation but we just rolled with them no probs. Heck, I would even accept an explanation that "the daevas are a group of seven, each with a specific role, and they always have the same names based on the duties they fulfill". That would mean the new daeva group would look different, but if that's what it takes to bring them back, I will take whatever I can get dangit!

What makes you say those druids were taken out first? Everyone left that meeting around about the same time. Just because they were rescued first, doesn't mean they were taken out first.