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The Language Club #1
Offline   Mae
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Hello. This is the place to come if you are interested in languages. Amaranthia is a culturally and linguistically varied community, where people speak dozens, if not hundreds of languages. This club is dedicated to those languages.

Keep your eye on this first post, more info to follow.

If you want to be a member of this club, post here, or just read what others have posted. It's a very open club. When we get more established, we might get together some language groups and then we can talk more about memberships.

One thing to remember, though, is that the language of this forum is English, so discussion in other languages should be accompanied by an English translation. This club is more about talking about language, learning other languages (and maybe a bit about your own) and learning about all things related to language, not so much about speaking in tongues.

Posted on: 2008/10/1 13:30
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Re: The Language Club #2
Offline   Pan
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Nice idea Mae, I guess its people from all over the world here you are from Finland the beautiful country in the north, the 1000 lakes land, and I am from Sweden, we got 1000 lakes too, good thing we like to Bath

Pan.

Posted on: 2008/10/1 21:09
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Re: The Language Club #3
Offline   Mae
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It was Oracle's idea, not mine, but I agree, neighbor, it was a good one.

Btw, welcome back, I've missed you so much.

Posted on: 2008/10/2 8:59
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Re: The Language Club #4
Offline   Catchoun
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I was about to create that club here too, since I've begun a thread about that some times ago in DL Headquarters, but nobody seemed to be interested in, except Oracle
At first it was more specific between French and English but in fact, there was no limit ...

just to let you know what I've put there

Quote:

Since I've made litterary studies and I'm always been interested in foreign langages, I would like to improve my English and take advantage of the fact that most of my fellow DL are english spoken to do that

On top of that, it can be interesting to compare some origins of words or terms, regarding the fact that English and French are sometimes linked with in certain ways...

Basset, I know that you are good in that, so if you don't mind, don't hesitate to correct all the mistakes I will make here or there, it will help me to learn and be better, I hope
Same for all the others naturally

What I propose to you all is not only to put here specifications, but perhaps also some interesting informations about the langage itself or comparisons between English and French.

If anything else seemed to be interesting to add there, feel free to talk about it, since there is no specific rule except the fact of improving the knowledge of the langages and discussing only about these langages and their specifications/relations/links and no other subject

Posted on: 7/14 20:53


Good to see we're not the only ones...

Posted on: 2008/10/2 11:57
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Re: The Language Club #5
Offline   nightingale
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This club seems like a great idea. Would it be an appropriate place to bring something that needs translating/pronouncing?

Posted on: 2008/10/2 13:41
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Re: The Language Club #6
Offline   Kaus
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Thats a great idea for a club, I speak english as a main language but im taking French and Spanish in school, and I love learning other languages, they sound so cool

Posted on: 2008/10/2 18:49


Re: The Language Club #7
Offline   Pan
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I missed you to Mae ( so very much) and many more here of my good friends, that’s why I had to come back, any way the club is cool and translating like Kirikat subjected sounds good, maybe we can do that too

Posted on: 2008/10/2 19:07
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Re: The Language Club #8
Offline   Oracle
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@Kaus, you may also find here French Amaranthians that may be able to help, Like Catchoun and Flavie.

Posted on: 2008/10/2 19:24
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Re: The Language Club #9
Offline   Kaus
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Cool thanks Oracle

Posted on: 2008/10/2 19:49


Re: The Language Club #10
Offline   Catchoun
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The first idea about that kind of thread came to us from a "misunderstanding" about our motto in DL's

"Know Dragons, No Fear"

Then I was asking ...
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but there is no correlation with the fact that we and our dragons are "linked" together... I mean, it's not only the fact to know dragons, which provides the fact not to have any fear, it's the fact that we are "linked" with them, no ?


and Oracle answered me that

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Cat, the word 'know' is synonomis with the words below which do convey that kind of relationship. To 'know' Jesus, or to 'know' your mate indicates a very intimate relationship. It is that context I was looking at with the motto. Only you can 'Know'Dagondux. Only I can 'Know'George.

associate, cognize, comprehend, discern, distinguish, experience, fathom, grasp, identify, ken, profess, realize, recognize, see, understand

So often there is a lot of meaning in words that we loose in translation. Languages are so rich with meaning, do you have a french word that conveys the same as our word KNOW? in the sense described above?


So I was looking for these translations afterwards

to know = savoir, in the sense of "I know my lesson" or "in this situation, I know what the truth is"

to below = appartenir, in the sense of "I below to the DL guild" or "I below to the human species"

then, regarding the verbs above, no one can really express the same meaning as "to know" in French

Associate = associer
Cognize = découvrir (given by Oracle because I didn't find the word in my dictionnary Cognise is to know/see for the first time - for example : someone shows you a picture of someone you have never seen before)
Discern = discerner
Distinguish = distinguer
Experience = apprendre
Fathom = comprendre, saisir
Grasp = comprendre, saisir
Identify = identifier
Ken = not a verb in my dictionary
Profess = really different meanings in French : prétendre, confesser, professer, se prononcer
Realize = réaliser
Recognize = reconnaîre (which is something very different of “know” it’s more like “I haven’t seen her for such a long time, that I almost didn’t recognize her, she’s become so tall”)
See = voir
Understand = comprendre


Hope it fits to what you're waiting here ?
if not, I can delete it, just let me know

And if you need any help for translating anything in French, don't hesitate to PM me, I've already done that for some friends here

Posted on: 2008/10/3 2:21
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Re: The Language Club #11
Offline   elm
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I'm afraid I don't know the French translation but I might be able to help with the word Ken. It's Scottish dialect (Scotland being one of the countries that makes up the UK).

A common phrase using it might be "I dunnae ken" which means "I do not understand". In this case the dunnae = do not and ken = understand. But it would also be equivalent to the phrase "I do not know". So in that context ken = know.

I hope that helps or maybe I've just confused the issue more

Posted on: 2008/10/3 5:08
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Re: The Language Club #12
Offline   Catchoun
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thanks for the informations elm

In fact, the explanations about the "know" problem have been given by Oracle some weeks ago

I just posted the "dialogues" there so that you can understand why I was looking for so many translation about verbs

But it's good to know different ways of saying things

Posted on: 2008/10/3 5:18
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Re: The Language Club #13
Offline   elm
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Oops - I guess I didn't read your post properly sorry.

Posted on: 2008/10/3 6:10
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Re: The Language Club #14
Offline   Catchoun
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doesn't matter elm, it's nice too to have other informations

I've made litterary studies and I guess that's why I'm always very much interested in all what langages concern...

Posted on: 2008/10/3 7:22
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Re: The Language Club #15
Offline   MoonPrincess
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Great Club XD
I love to learn languages different that my native and also to get known other cultures as well. I'm most interested in learning Japanese but the bad thing is that there isn't any interest for that language in my country so I can't visit any course

Posted on: 2008/10/3 16:24


Re: The Language Club #16
Offline   Pan
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sorry to here that Moonie but I can lern you Swedish if you want Du är en snäll tös, tack för den fina pan bilden = You are a kind girl, thanks for the nice pan picture

Posted on: 2008/10/3 20:57
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Re: The Language Club #17
Offline   Mizzou
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I have some poems written by my great-grandfather that are in Swedish but I have no idea what they say. Could someone translate them if I post them (assuming that I can read his handwriting)?

Posted on: 2008/10/4 1:55
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Re: The Language Club #18
Offline   MoonPrincess
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@Pan you always put a smile on my face my dear friend And I'll love to learn Swedish too

Posted on: 2008/10/4 3:18
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Re: The Language Club #19
Offline   Catchoun
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@Mizzou, I'm sure Pan will do that for you...
Don't you mind putting them here to share with us ?

@Moony, so do I


I remember when I was 17, I tried to learn Russian all by myself, but I hadn't much money and couldn't afford the tape, just the book...
after a while I had to stop because some langages are really impossible to learn if you don't hear them too ...

Posted on: 2008/10/4 3:41
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Re: The Language Club #20
Offline   Pan
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Moon:

Mizzou: I can try just post them to me here, pm or to my e mail, look at my profile for that, and hope he dont use very odd writing You culd even try to scan them...

Posted on: 2008/10/4 7:22
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