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Re: Whisper of a Rose #81
Offline   Mizzou
  Dragon Lords
gold   2291 Gold
Level : 38
EXP : 70
HP : 188 / 942
MP : 751 / 13255
On one hand it's good to know that the game will be re-released and hasn't disappeared but I find it very discouraging that the release announcement didn't come directly from the game maker but instead through a third party. Needless to say I am not a very happy customer and I'm sure that I'm not alone with that. I won't even get into what I think about the whole "take advantage of the Christmas rush" thing. This game had better be worth it.

Posted on: 2009/8/27 2:46
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Re: Whisper of a Rose #82
Offline   LikaLaruku
  Amaranthian
gold   57 Gold
Level : 6
EXP : 95
HP : 0 / 148
MP : 21 / 2241
Well....shit happens. I guess instead of releasing patches to fix the game, the developers decided it needed an overhaul. They should beta-test it in November first.

I'm looking forward to playing this for the first time.

Posted on: 2009/8/28 2:30


Re: Whisper of a Rose #83
Offline   chrmdfreak
  Amaranthian
gold   65 Gold
Level : 7
EXP : 34
HP : 0 / 158
MP : 23 / 2297
i'm done with butterfly hills and ladybug town..where do i go next??

preferably what level should i be right now?

EDIT: i'm in the marionette place... and i can't seem to defeat the girl and that cat... any tips?
=D

thanks...

Posted on: 2009/8/29 7:47


Re: Whisper of a Rose #84
Offline   aqua_princess
  Amaranthian
gold   303 Gold
Level : 8
EXP : 35
HP : 0 / 183
MP : 29 / 2060
ur in marionette i havent been there?? wich side is it?

Posted on: 2009/8/29 11:16


Re: Whisper of a Rose #85
Offline   chrmdfreak
  Amaranthian
gold   65 Gold
Level : 7
EXP : 34
HP : 0 / 158
MP : 23 / 2297
after ladybug village... i go to the upper leftmost side of the world map.. it's a creepy place...

so.. if i'm not supposed to be here... what should i do after the ladybug village?

@ aqua princess: here's the torches that are to be lighted...

Open in new window

Posted on: 2009/8/29 22:23


Re: Whisper of a Rose #86
Offline   aqua_princess
  Amaranthian
gold   303 Gold
Level : 8
EXP : 35
HP : 0 / 183
MP : 29 / 2060
Thanku for tellin me chrmd freak

Posted on: 2009/8/30 10:45


Re: Whisper of a Rose #87
Offline   chrmdfreak
  Amaranthian
gold   65 Gold
Level : 7
EXP : 34
HP : 0 / 158
MP : 23 / 2297
aqua princess. help me in the sweet tower k? what do i do next ?

Posted on: 2009/8/31 5:31


Re: Whisper of a Rose #88
Offline   dj112582
  Amaranthian
gold   24 Gold
Level : 5
EXP : 27
HP : 0 / 106
MP : 14 / 1599
sounds great i cant wait to try it!

Posted on: 2009/9/3 8:47


Re: Whisper of a Rose #89
Offline   aqua_princess
  Amaranthian
gold   303 Gold
Level : 8
EXP : 35
HP : 0 / 183
MP : 29 / 2060
The game is really full of bugs !

Posted on: 2009/9/3 12:10


Re: Whisper of a Rose #90
Offline   Mizzou
  Dragon Lords
gold   2291 Gold
Level : 38
EXP : 70
HP : 188 / 942
MP : 751 / 13255
That's why the maker pulled it. It wasn't properly tested before it was released.

Posted on: 2009/9/3 18:48
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Re: Whisper of a Rose #91
Offline   chrmdfreak
  Amaranthian
gold   65 Gold
Level : 7
EXP : 34
HP : 0 / 158
MP : 23 / 2297
so, do you guys know when a proper release date would be happening?

Posted on: 2009/9/3 23:54


Re: Whisper of a Rose #92
Offline   aislingyngaio
  Amaranthian
gold   14213 Gold
Level : 72
EXP : 34
HP : 2140 / 2140
MP : 4681 / 27624
Read post #80.

Posted on: 2009/9/4 1:30
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Re: Whisper of a Rose #93
Offline   chrmdfreak
  Amaranthian
gold   65 Gold
Level : 7
EXP : 34
HP : 0 / 158
MP : 23 / 2297
it's true? coz it came from a third party source.

Posted on: 2009/9/4 3:11


Re: Whisper of a Rose #94
Offline   Mizzou
  Dragon Lords
gold   2291 Gold
Level : 38
EXP : 70
HP : 188 / 942
MP : 751 / 13255
@chrmdfreak: Who knows but it's the only information available at the moment and the maker hasn't been talking. I hope it's true since I'd like to be able to finish the game but in the future I would think twice about getting another game from him.

Posted on: 2009/9/6 14:19
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Re: Whisper of a Rose #95
Offline   chrmdfreak
  Amaranthian
gold   65 Gold
Level : 7
EXP : 34
HP : 0 / 158
MP : 23 / 2297
AMEN to your statement... i would really think twice on getting/buying a game from him. pssh.

Posted on: 2009/9/6 20:43


Re: Whisper of a Rose #96
Offline   MoonPrincess
  Druids
gold   4823 Gold
Level : 52
EXP : 2
HP : 765 / 1275
MP : 1706 / 19747
I don't think I will ever continue the game lol

Posted on: 2009/9/7 4:41
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Re: Whisper of a Rose #97
Offline   firestar
  Amaranthian
gold   72 Gold
Level : 6
EXP : 75
HP : 0 / 143
MP : 20 / 2116
At the iDream- I tried randomly pressing EVERYWHERE and I never got anything.

Posted on: 2009/9/8 20:46
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Re: Whisper of a Rose #98
Offline   intan
  Amaranthian
gold   9 Gold
Level : 1
EXP : 86
HP : 0 / 21
MP : 3 / 333
Help!!Can you tell me the exact location for the dragonfly drop? I already search in anatta woods's cave (dragonfly's nest) n fight the only one dragonfly there but i still dont find it. can u tell me with picture? thx a lot

Posted on: 2009/9/22 10:05


Re: Whisper of a Rose #99
Offline   mimancherai
  Amaranthian
gold   1 Gold
Level : 1
EXP : 2
HP : 0 / 0
MP : 0 / 7
@intan you can find dragonfly droppings in the dragonfly nest in Anatta wood. You can take a short cut by walking through the cave that you met Hellena (through the crack on the wall). Search around the area after you're out in the wood.

I played it and found some hidden chests (mostly under the tree shades in Anatta wood) contain sugar and hot orbs. If anyone found more of these please tell me :-)

Other things I found was the teleport area in the plain, the Anatta queen, the butterfly cave and valen town. You can use it to go back later, keep and eye out for a pale green area and walk upon it. You'll need 15 memory orbs to activate it, and 1 more to teleport.

After you have Diamond in your team, if you walk back to Anatta wood in the next screen from the cave you met Hellene, down, and left, you'll find the sign 'Valentown-east' or something, next to it is the area that can fully replenish your health and mana and remove negative effects for free!



@firestar For idream, first pick up the crowbar, then talk to the guard, choose the third option, and when he's looking outside, walk behind him and press enter. You'll hit him with the crowbar and get the idream.

So far I'm playing in Sweet tower, lit up the torch, pulled the lever (on the second or third platform after jumped).. I found that the rocks can be pulled through holes in the ground. It will open the blocked path to the top, pulled second lever. Found Trainee's ribbons for Diamond and #123.50 love radio frequency. However I can't seem to find the way to open the dungeon gate.

Anyone knows?

Posted on: 2009/9/23 12:26


Re: Whisper of a Rose #100
Offline   webgrunt
  Amaranthian
gold   71 Gold
Level : 6
EXP : 48
HP : 0 / 137
MP : 19 / 1852
The people who purchased this game and did not get refunds were victims of theft by fraud. That's a pretty strong accusation I know, but I saw the evidence with my own eyes.

I was one of the first people who purchased this game back in early May, and I have pieced together the following by extracting the game contents and examining them with the program with which it was created (RPG Maker XP)

The game wasn't anywhere near finished when it was released. It had some game-breaking bugs, but they fixed the first few, however, fairly early in the game, there was one that they claimed they were unable to fix (though it took me two seconds to fix it with RPG maker). It was obvious that AJ (Arend-Jan, the creator of the game) put that bug in intentionally in order to hide the fact that there really wasn't anything after that point--Whisper of a Rose was released as a full game, but it was really only the beginning of an unfinished game. I reported this on their message board, and their response was to accuse me of "hacking the game" as though I had done something wrong. Excuse me, but if I buy something and it doesn't work, I think I have the right to take it apart to see why it isn't working. And of course I only accessed my copy--I didn't change anyone else's copy of the game and wouldn't be able to if I tried.

Other people had examined the game and mentioned this on AJ's web site, roseportalgames.com. Those posts were deleted. AJ blamed the "bugs" on "beta testers who were more interested in getting an early version of the game than testing for bugs" which makes no sense, because why would they approve an unplayable game either way?

I requested a refund and immediately received a response from him, "Refund Granted!" However, he did not refund my money. I wrote him several emails over the next week asking why, and he didn't respond--but he had plenty of time to post messages on the chat board, so I know it wasn't that he was too busy or unable to get online. Finally, I contacted Plimus (the company I purchased it through) and explained that I had never received the refund he said he granted me, and they refunded my money.

At one point, AJ actually admitted that he thought there "might be a few bugs" but released the game anyway because he needed the money for a field trip for school.

At first, AJ used "taking my finals" as an excuse for not "fixing the bugs." After finals were over and people started getting eager to continue their game, AJ then started saying he was taking extra time to revamp the game and make improvements. After about a month of saying the release would be "soon" and the bugs were not fixed, I noticed that he was still selling the game as a finished, working game. I pointed this out and accused him of fraud. His answer was that every software company released programs that have bugs. I replied that I knew the game wasn't finished because I and others had examined it, and that if he didn't stop selling the game, I was going to turn my evidence (screenshots of what I found when I examined the game) over to Plimus. He agreed to stop selling the game and he stopped selling it from his site.

However, six weeks after that, I noticed that new people kept coming into the Rose Portal message board and asking about the "bug" that stopped everyone from progressing in the game. I asked Arend-Jan how this could be, and he said that resellers were still selling his game. Apparently, he didn't feel it necessary to tell them to stop selling a broken and unfinished game as long as he had money coming in. I had already notified Amaranth Games, and they stopped selling the game immediately, but other companies were still selling it, and AJ kept stringing them along, more and more people massing their 30-day window in which they could obtain a refund.

At one point, I asked him on the message board if the game was likely to be finished in six weeks. He said that sounded right. Soon after that, he said that the beta testing of the game was completed. I waited until exactly twelve weeks after he agreed that it should be finished in six weeks, quoted his message, and asked him what the delay was about. I was gentle and respectful, because I wanted to give him every possible chance to prove me wrong about him being a fraud and a thief. I really wanted to believe he was a good kid who made a mistake but was doing his best to fix it. He didn't answer, and very shortly after that, he took down the Rose Portal games site.

To me, the evidence that AJ knowingly sold a broken, unfinished game as a fully working product is irrefutable. However, a lot of people sided with AJ, believing him to be a good kid at heart (He's only 18 years old) and they liked him for producing such a great partially-finished game and didn't want to upset him in case he decided not to finish it--which I do understand, as the little bit he did finish is one of the best FF-style games I've ever played (and I've played a lot of great ones.) I consider him to be a master storyteller, perhaps even a prodigy, but I realize that having extraordinary talent doesn't mean you're immune to laziness, greed and dishonesty. You can be a great artist and a huge jerk at the same time. Talent doesn't make people honest. However, he has a good deal of charm, even through a chat board, and people tend to trust him in spite of all evidence that they shouldn't.

AJ had to know when he released the game that only a small part of it had been coded and the rest was simply not there. There's no possible way a programmer could be unaware that his game was mostly unfinished. Yet he released it for sale and continued to sell it even on his main site until I called him out on it, continually denied that it was unfinished, kept telling people it would be "fixed soon", at one point even said beta testing on the new release was complete, and he never told the resellers to stop selling it--for all I know, some of them still are.

Now he's saying he's going to wait until December to release it?? What about all the people who bought it back in May and have been waiting all this time for a playable release?

Posted on: 2009/9/26 6:08


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