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Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #71
Offline   shadesofgrey
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I did see that someone said it might be possible but I did not see how it would be possible and was wondering if it would be automatic like an expansion pack or if we have to copy and paste the file into the folder.

Posted on: 2009/5/9 19:11


Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #72
Offline   shaz
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You will not have to do anything. Amanda has already worked out how save files will carry from one chapter to the next. All you have to do is finish the game in each chapter before you can carry your progress over to the new one (or decide you want to start the new chapter afresh)

Posted on: 2009/5/9 20:01
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Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #73
Offline   Pandaba
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I think this is a new and interesting thing to try out for the popular AV games. It'll be like a persistent RPG where you purchase "expansion packs" every few months or so. This isn't anything new that the bigger game companies already do, so I don't know why so many people are upset with this. If you play games like Neverwinter Nights, you usually purchase expansion packs which have new campaigns to play.

Posted on: 2009/5/9 21:38
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Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #74
Offline   Ryan_Hayward
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My apologies for moaning before. I didn't realize some people could finish Aveyond 2 in under 20 hours. I thought I was good but obviously some of you guys and gals trumple me in the speed department. Hey, I'm sold if the two chapters will be as large as aveyond 2 or larger and I guess future chapters will be the icing on the cake as it will mean more aveyond sooner rather than later and being able to flesh out the characters that have come to love.
I was heartbroken when Aveyond 2 came to an end so maybe just maybe you can release chapters for that game as well. That would be so awesome!

The productions for the aveyond games are very good, it wasn't fair for me to compare them to big budget games as that is not what indie is about.
Besides, the pixel art is gorgeous and captures the snes glory days very well. I really have to be honest and say I got as much enjoyment from Aveyond 2 as I am getting now from Elders Scrollsblivion and Gothic 3.

Posted on: 2009/5/9 23:07


Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #75
Offline   twiceth
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@Ryan_Hayward.....I deem it as impossible since Amanda had already started on AV3 not so long ago. AV2 had already come to an end (I mean, we already have the endings, right? There's no point sticking another chapter on it after Ean and Iya left for their home) and it seems to me that Amanda isn't the type of person to add another chapter in previous games while in the middle of another project.

Posted on: 2009/5/9 23:27
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Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #76
Offline   shadesofgrey
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Well that is a bit reassuring. I still do not like the idea of it being in chapters, but I hope I change my mind after it comes out.

Posted on: 2009/5/9 23:44


Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #77
Offline   macca44
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Now that AV is being released in chapters every 3 months or so...whats going to happen between AV3 and AV4? will it still be a year or 2 between the last chapter of AV3 and the release of AV4 or will AV4 be out 3 months after AV3 ends?

Posted on: 2009/5/9 23:54


Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #78
Offline   Mopiece
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I think the chapters will become what was originally planned for Aveyond 4.

Posted on: 2009/5/10 0:07
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Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #79
Offline   looney_mooney
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I love the idea of not having to wait so long for new content and I am absolutely dying for the next game to come out, but won't it end up being more expensive? I get that for the Aveyond 3 release, the price works out to be the same as if it were released all at once. But is the price going to stay the same for all the chapters released afterward, $10? Paying $10 every time a new chapter is released is gonna add up, instead of a one-time fee every year or so, right?

I'm just bummed we gotta wait longer for the game to come out...

Posted on: 2009/5/10 0:09


Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #80
Offline   macca44
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thanks Mo but i'm not sure i got my question across. From what i understand AV3 will have 6 chapters that comprise of 2 chapters each from what was originally planned to be AV3/4/5. This is all going to be released under AV3 now. Once the AV3 story is finished (All 6 chapters) how long will it be before the new story, AV4, is released?

Posted on: 2009/5/10 0:22


Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #81
Offline   mara34
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This is exactly what I was trying to say (Re:Looney). Scrap the platform comparisons and the education of the developers... That's not what I was trying to critique, it's almost irrelevant (I say 'almost' because the next post is going to lambaste me for saying education is irrelevant). I just don't want AV to turn into some cash grab and have the quality bottom out too.
Call me a traditionalist, I like my games in one package for one price.

Posted on: 2009/5/10 0:29


Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #82
Offline   Stardale
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If you like games in one pack, maybe you should wait until Amanda finishes all chapters. Egh that will be a long time though.

Posted on: 2009/5/10 1:03
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Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #83
Offline   bacman136
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*gulp* i really hope the chapters are gonna show up on shockwave because if they are not then my mom says shes not gonna pay for them for me.

Posted on: 2009/5/10 1:21


Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #84
Offline   shaz
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@looney_mooney: a one-time fee every year was not an option, unless you meant $20 for AV3, then $20 for AV4 the following year, and so on. Let's assume that Amanda kept going with the full version of AV3, then AV4 and AV5 as a trilogy. AV3 is 20 hours long. AV4 would be about the same, and AV5 as well (again, we're making assumptions). So you've got 60 hours. And they might have taken a year each to make. So you're getting 60 hours worth of gameplay, for $60, over 3 years. Or maybe longer, if she chose to have a break from RPG games between each segment.

Now let's work on the chapter idea, and we'll assume that AV4 and AV5 will both be split into 2 chapters similar to AV3. So now you've got 6 chapters, all about 10 hours each, and all costing $10 each. All up, you're still spending $60 and getting 60 hours of gameplay. But because they're being done as chapters and built onto the previous game, rather than started from scratch, you're going to get them in half the time - a year and a half rather than three years.

At least that's the idea. So yes, I guess you're paying more money over the same period of time, but you're getting twice as many hours of gameplay over that time too.

So what WAS going to be called AV4 and AV5 will now become chapters of AV3. AV4, when it comes, will be a completely new story.

@Macca44: I don't believe you'll have to wait a year for chapter 1 of AV4 to be produced. Previous games have taken this long because they've been so large. Now that Amanda's treating them as chapters, even the first one will be able to be completed, tested and released much faster than a full 20-hour game would be. I don't know if it will be 3 months like chapters of AV3 or maybe a bit longer. That will depend on the game itself, and on how efficient we've become at following our schedule

@mara34: really, don't worry about that. Amanda is not one to sacrifice quality for quantity. Try the games out when they're available, and chances are, if you think the quality is dropping, others will too, and it will reflect in sales of the game. If that happens, Amanda will have to revisit her plan. But there's no sense in claiming that's what's going to happen when you just don't know You might end up thoroughly enjoying the game, and pleased that you won't have to wait so long for the next chapter...

Posted on: 2009/5/10 1:26
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Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #85
Offline   macca44
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Thanks Shaz

Posted on: 2009/5/10 1:40


Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #86
Offline   aislingyngaio
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@macca: I think that depends on how successful the chapter idea is, doesn't it?

Posted on: 2009/5/10 5:59
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Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #87
Offline   Kirroha
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I'm very pleased with the Chapter idea. However, I'm just worried that people might think it's just up to grab people's money, since Aveyond 3 will be split into 2 chapters, but 4 more chapters from what used to be Av4 and Av5 would be added on as well, which makes people think that Aveyond 3 consists of 6 chapters, a.k.a. $60, which they won't think it's worth their money.

Posted on: 2009/5/10 6:04
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Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #88
Offline   shaz
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It is worth $60. And it would still be worth $60 if it were AV3, AV4 and AV5 as a trilogy, since each separate game would be $20.

It's been a little while since I finished school, but to me, that looks about the same

Posted on: 2009/5/10 6:36
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Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #89
Offline   Kirroha
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No - I meant that some people might have thought that AV3 would not be worth $60. But it's actually 3 games.

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Re: Aveyond 3 News - Splitting into Chapters #90
Offline   ujwal08
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i'm confused, will this chapter system be continued till aveyond 5 for sure?

Posted on: 2009/5/10 9:32
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